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Compost Heap Thoughts, Slippery Slopes, & Grappling Hooks

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 DayByDay96 (original poster new member #86550) posted at 1:48 AM on Friday, October 3rd, 2025

I am turning something over in my head like a compost heap, trying to heat it up and aerate it so that it can be something productive instead of just a lump of matter sitting there in the corner of my mind(Sorry for the gardening simile, to those who don't garden). I told BH that I have in the past broken off friendships if I sensed that I liked someone a little too much, with the idea in mind to create distance between myself and that person and prevent myself from engaging in infidelity, and intend to do so (more better) in the future (This is something I would expect BH to do as well.) I figure, why bring yourself closer to temptation when you don't have to? Especially if you have a track record of cheating, and you don't exactly trust yourself anymore. To me, it seems like the proactive thing to do.

BH doesn't like that. From what I understand, he wants me to have friends, recognize if I feel an intimate connection or attraction to them and just... remain friends? He said he doesn't want me to want more with those people at all, because I'm content in my marriage... I feel like I half get what he's saying, but the other half of me is just like "...what?" I don't feel like I have any control whatsoever over whether or not I "catch feelings" for people at this point in my life (disconnecting platonic interactions and connections with romantic and sexual intimacy is one of my goals for IC, but I think that will take some time), and the only thing I do really have conscious control over is how closely I pay attention to my feelings, and how often I interact with someone I like when I recognize that I have beyond-platonic feelings for them. I was going to type "I don't think that my contentedness with my marriage has anything to do with whether I start to catch feelings," Which, for the most part is true, but I suppose in the past, my contentedness has correlated with whether or not I allowed things to go too far.

Our MC said that other people who are interested in me and looking for potential affairs can sense when there's any vulnerabilities in marriages, and target those individuals... I don't know how they do that. I never said a bad word about BH to my AP, nor complained about any marital issues. I think that would be useful to learn. The MC (who is a man himself) gave helpful examples of differences in tone of voice and word choice that might indicate to others that one is happily married vs simply married... I'm not one whose prone to particularly feminist lines of thought, but I just feel that it kind of really sucks that I have to police myself so heavily in order to avoid giving men "the wrong idea" when I already struggle so much with following social conventions and consciously regulating my body language and facial expressions (Thanks, AuDHD.) And like I know if other people are the pursuers and I am the one accepting or rejecting their advances, then it shouldn't really matter, but then again, I was able to rationalize at so many different points while the A was beginning that we were "just friends," and that nothing would come of our interactions, and go down that slippery slope that I really fear that happening again... And it feels awful to say that, because how is BH supposed to trust me if I don't even trust myself right now?

I gave him the analogy that right now I'm remaining vigilant for any slippery slopes, and should I find myself on less-than-solid ground, I intend to immediately deploy a metaphorical grappling hook and get myself the heck out of there, because I love him and value my marriage, and don't want extramarital relationships with anyone else. But he said he is afraid that if I have to cut off friendships to remain faithful, then he worries I will eventually become resentful of him. I don't think that's true at all, because in no way would I blame him for having to cut off friendships, that hasn't been the case when I've done it in the past, and I don't know why it would be the case if my marriage is where I want to be, and therefore a priority... I guess he's still struggling to believe that last part after everything that happened, which I can understand. I'm thinking that it'll probably just take time for him to accept these things that he struggles to believe right now, but certainly I don't like feeling powerless to help him with it. I am trying to be patient and focus on fixing my own issues in the meantime.

I know he and I probably need to discuss it ourselves, but I know it'll be another hour or two of waiting, and I kind of just wanted to get these thoughts out now. Maybe get some insights on them.

[This message edited by DayByDay96 at 1:55 AM, Friday, October 3rd]

Me - WW, 28
BH - 53
DDay - July 15th, 2025

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 DayByDay96 (original poster new member #86550) posted at 7:25 PM on Friday, October 3rd, 2025

Well, that conversation went disastrously.

He basically said that me having to cut off friendships with people I like a little too much because infidelity is a possibility is an ick for him. Hurtful. His preference would be to have someone who doesn't experience temptation at all because they are content in their marriage. He seemed pretty unwilling to consider the possibility that sometimes people who are content in their marriages still experience temptation, whether or not they choose to talk about it or act on it.

I think it's hard for him to understand because his previous marriage was a deeply unhappy one, and so he attributes experiencing temptation and acting on it to that discontentedness. Whereas in his second marriage to me, he has been (up until recently) much happier, and believes that to be the reason why he hasn't experienced temptation on which to act... I told him I think that's due to the fact he's not a) seeking out interesting, attractive women with whom to interact for extended periods of time, such that any feelings can develop (as I wasn't, when my affair began), and b) interesting, attractive women are not approaching him with the intention of beginning relationships with him (whereas my AP approached me and sought me out for extended interactions... Of course, he took this as an insult-- "women aren't chasing after you!"-- instead of a statement of fact...) So his data for which he's basing this belief is very simple and limited.

If I'm understanding it correctly, his thought process is, "I've never felt tempted whenever I've been content in my marriage; therefore other people who are content in their marriage don't feel temptation either. Even if they do recognize that somebody is attractive, they don't feel such a strong pull towards them that there's even a possibility of infidelity because they have no desire for extramarital relationships." But I just couldn't seem to get through to him that this really isn't a thing. I told him I don't believe that there's anyone out there who, should they meet a gorgeous, compatible person with an extremely likable personality, and should spend enough time with that person, wouldn't begin to develop feelings and experience temptation, regardless of marital satisfaction. I was trying to explain that the beyond-platonic feelings grow the more time you spend with a person like that, and as they grow, so does the amount of temptation you feel, and that it's frustrating and sometimes even painful to subject yourself to interacting with that person when you're trying to remain loyal to your spouse... But I just don't think he can imagine that because he hasn't experienced it within a happy marriage.

And of course, in addition to saying I wasn't letting him have his "feelings" again, instead of applying the adjectives I used to describe this hypothetical, extremely tempting person, he took what I was saying to mean that I found my AP to be "gorgeous," which conflicts with what I told him before (the truth, being that I found him to be... definitely not my type, but sexually attractive because of the way we connected and how excited about me he seemed.) Having to try and go back and correct that misplaced application (which didn't fucking work, by the way; he just assumed I've been lying about how attractive I really found AP) was extremely triggering to me, with the multiple parallels to how my abusive stepdad would "communicate" with me, and I ended up storming off again. I had to go for a drive in order to settle down enough to feel sleepy, even though it was past midnight at that point. (Not the best choice, I know; but I couldn't stand to be in that house with him any longer. I figured he could see my location and movements, my Truelane app data as proof I wasn't using my phone while driving, and my call/text history, if me leaving like that made him anxious. I saved my dashcam footage as well, and we texted the entire time I was stopped, before I headed home. If he should still think I was doing anything nefarious during that drive after all that, I think we're just fucking doomed.)

I came back to bed only because there weren't any clean blankets about with which to cover myself on the couch. I laid there and cried my eyes out, feeling that I was never going to be enough for him. I just kept repeating in my head, "When?! When will I be good enough to be loved???" (I know that's related to my childhood trauma and resulting anxious attachment style as well, but I couldn't logic myself out of it in that moment.) He sleepily caressed my back, which I really didn't want, but eventually I managed to fall asleep. This morning we weren't talking with one another. I think we were both waiting to see if the other would initiate physical affection when he was heading out for work, but we did end up hugging at the insistence of our 4yo. ("Hug and kiss goodbye, because you love each other!") I am feeling afraid to let myself love him as deeply as I have because I'm convinced he doesn't feel the same way.

Today I have been working on fostering self-love and feeling good enough. I used an AI voice to record positive affirmations, and stored them on my phone to listen to when I need them... I feel like if they were in my own voice, they wouldn't work. I feel a little pathetic-- a bit like a dog using a clicker on myself. But hey, if it helps, it helps. I'm willing to try anything at this point. I feel so irretrievably broken.

Me - WW, 28
BH - 53
DDay - July 15th, 2025

posts: 37   ·   registered: Sep. 8th, 2025
id 8879058
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